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Ladies and gentlemen…. we should all feel honoured. To watch greatness of this level in our lifetime is a privilege. In the end, kobe will be top 3 alltime. Most likely be the all time leading scorer and could have as many championships as MJ. Obviously most of us grew up watching Jordan, Johnson, Isiah Thomas, Ewing, Wilkens, Shaq, Stockton, and Malone, but How many of us can say that weve watched Chamberlin, West, Russell, Cousey, Archibald, DR J, Havlicek, Baylor, Pistol Pete Marovich, or The Big O Oscar Robertson? Granted some have watched them, but not too many. When all is said and done Kobes name will be among these greats. Lets all appreciate him for what he is, one of the best EVER!! Never have i seen a player with the ferocity, drive, skill and basketball iq as kobe. Lets all look past his early career stupidities and look at what hes become… The best player in the game today. And lets remember that any time we get to watch him is a privilege.
BEST EVER?????
Have you lost your mind? Ever heard of a gentleman born in Brooklyn, raised in North Carolina – went to a little known school in the backwoods of NC – they call themselves the Tarheels.
If I am not mistaken, he won a championship or 2 in the city of Chicago, IL.
SHOW SOME RESPECT!
Im actually pretty confused as to which statement youre responding to? No where did i say Kobe would be the best. I said hed be One of the best. Last time I checked one of the best and the best are 2 different things. I did say he was the best in the game today. Well anyways its a toss up between him and Lebron, depends on who you talk to i guess. I do believe that he will end up the all time leading scorer if he stays healthy. I dont disrespet Jordan. hes the man. Growing up a lakers fan id feel like a traitor if i didnt say i liked magic johnson more. He also won a college championship with Michigan state against Indiana featuring Larry Bird and then went on to win 4 championships. I think thats pretty good too. Anways back to Kobe, hes only 31 and hes got another 5 years of Prime Basketball left in him. If he wins another championship, would u not agree that it would put him in at least the same company as jordan? I think in any prefessional sport we feel the need to put a “greatest” tag on people. Why? Why cant we say he was one of the greats? Theres no right or wrong as far as the greatest goes. Ya obviously you can pick someone unworthy, but my point is any of the greats can be argued. I can easily argue that Wilt is the greatest, and he might be, but who really cares? When you reach that level of greatness theres no need to say this guy is better than that guy. Lets just appreciate them for what theyve given us.
same company as jordan?
Have a read:
Michael Jordan VS Kobe Bryant
This never ending debate started years ago and still is going on now up till these days, this article will not be full of talk with nothing to back it up, its not about opinions, views and estimations only, in this debate we are gonna be talking numbers also, its all about the math today. Lets review some stats, figures, information and records, that I googled in, and will help us up in this.
STATS COMPARISON:
1) The Offense:
A-Season scoring avg. stats:
Michael Jordan finished his career in 2003 as the nba highest scoring player during the season with 30.1ppg, he is ranked number 1 of all times, Michael has 10 scoring titles and an NBA record of 7 consecutive scoring titles.
Kobe’s season stats of his career are 25 ppg he has 2 scoring titles only.
MJ23’s highest scoring season was at 37.1 in 1987, Kobe’s was 35.4 ppg in 2006.
MJ has a better FG percentage at 48.7% FG comparing to Kobe’s 45.3% FG during this career.
The result: NOT EVEN CLOSE. There is a big difference between mike’s season scoring stats and Kobe’s season scoring stats in their careers, also in assists. Although kobe scored 81 points in one game, which is second of all time, on a career wise level, his Airness ruled as far as offensive stats.
B-Playoffs scoring avg. stats:
Michael’s scoring in the playoffs was GREAT, he is 33.4ppg compared to 24.4 ppg by Kobe. Mike never fell below the 30ppg average except in his rookie season 29.3ppg, and his best year in the P.O. was 43.7, Kobe’s best was 32.8 in the 2007 playoffs.
Jordan also has the record for most points scored in a playoff game 63, and the finals record as he posted a 41.0 ppg average in the six game series victory over the Suns.
The result: No comparison between the two guys at that category, even if Kobe averaged 38ppg the rest of his playoff career, he won’t make it to even matching Jordan’s PO scoring. Jordan was a killer in the playoffs, and on consistent basis, while Kobe’s level was never stable in the playoffs (ask raja bell), and if you don’t believe me…..Google it.
C- Conclution:
Jordan has 10 SCORING TITLES which the nba’s best ( won 6 of his scoring titles while making over 50%), Kobe has only 2 SCORING TITLES, he has to win EIGHT MORE SCORING TITLES just to match the Great MJ… difficult to happen.
Most of those who think Kobe’s scoring is better than MJ’s, were not watching nba in the 90s and 80s, , they began watching the nba the year 2000 or need to read those stats carefully!!
2) The Defense:
Michael HAS THREE NBA STEALS TITLES, while Kobe has none.
MJ’s career steals avg. is 2.4spg along with being only second behind John Stockton in total steals made all time, Kobe’s SPG is only 1.5 spg (not joking).
MJ is had better RPG at 6.2rpg and blocks Shots 0.8bpg , Kobe is 5.3rpg on this career.
Michael was the defensive player in 1988, Kobe didn’t win that defensive honor yet.
Michael was voted all defensive team 9 times, Kobe made it (arguably last year) and 5 other times.
The result: Kobe is a good defender in the NBA right now but not as great as MJ was, Mike won the DOY award, even though he deserved at least three times, Kobe not even close on winning that. Jordan’s steals, block, rebounds, as he one season averaged 8 rebounds per game, are all better than Kobe Bryant’s ( is there anything Kobe is better than MJ at?? )
Guys need to not to compare Kobe to Michael in that area, MJ has the upper hand in stats, records and awards.
AWARDS COMPARISON:
Michael Jordan has 6 Championships
Kobe Bryant has 4 Championships
Michael Jordan has 5 MVPs
Kobe Bryant has 1 MVPs
Michael Jordan has 6 MVP finals
Kobe Bryant has ZERO MVP finals
Michael Jordan is 10 times all NBA first team
Kobe Bryant is 6 times all NBA first team
Michael Jordan 9 time defensive team
Kobe Bryant 6 time defensive team
Michael Jordan has 1 Def. Player of the Year
Kobe Bryant has ZERO Def. Player of the Year
Michael Jordan Rookie of the Year
Kobe Bryant not
Michael Jordan NBA All-Rookie First Team
Kobe Bryant NBA All-Rookie Second Team
Michael Jordan 14 All star appearances
Kobe Bryant 10 All star appearances
Michael Jordan 3 time all-star MVP
Kobe Bryant 2 time all-star MVP
Micheal Jordan 10 scoring titles
Kobe Bryant 2 scoring titles
Michael Jordan 3 steals titles
Kobe Bryant 0 steals titles
Michael Jordan 2 time Slam Dunk Champion
Kobe Bryant 1 time Slam Dunk Champion
Michael Jordan 2 Olympic gold medal
Kobe Bryant 1 Olympic gold medal
The result: Michael is better than Kobe in all categories, most of them by double, adding to that Michael won awards that Kobe did ever win, no comparison in the awards category either.
MJ23 HONORS AND AWARDS
Olympic Gold Medal: 1984, 1992
NBA Champion: 1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998
NCAA National Championship: 1982
NBA MVP: 1987/88, 1990/91, 1991/92, 1995/96, 1997/98
NBA Finals MVP: 1990/91, 1991/92, 1992/93, 1995/96, 1996/97, 1997/98
NBA Leading Scorer: 1986/87, 1987/88, 1988/89, 1989/90, 1990/91, 1991/92, 1992/93, 1995/96, 1996/97, 1997/98
All-NBA First Team: 1986/87, 1987/88, 1988/89, 1989/90, 1990/91, 1991/92, 1992/93, 1995/96, 1996/97, 1997/98
All-NBA Second Team: 1984/85
NBA All-Star Game: 1984/85, 1985/86, 1986/87, 1987/88, 1988/89, 1989/90, 1990/91, 1991/92, 1992/93, 1995/96, 1996/97, 1997/98, 2001/02, 2002/03
NBA All-Star Game MVP: 1987/88, 1995/96, 1997/98
NBA All-Defensive Team: 1987/88, 1988/89, 1989/90, 1990/91, 1991/92, 1992/93, 1995/96, 1996/97, 1997/98
NBA Defensive Player of the Year: 1987/88
NBA Rookie of the Year: 1984/85
NBA All-Rookie Team: 1984/85
Third on NBA All Time Scoring List: (32,292 points)
Second Most Steals of All Time: (2,514 steals)
50 Greatest Players in NBA History: 1996
The Sporting News MVP: 1987/88, 1988/89, 1990/91, 1991/92, 1995/96, 1996/97, 1997/98
NBA Slam Dunk Contest winner: 1987, 1988
ACC Freshman of the Year: 1982
ACC Men’s Basketball Player of the Year: 1984
USBWA College Player of the Year: 1984
Naismith College Player of the Year: 1984
John R. Wooden Award: 1984
Adolph Rupp Trophy: 1984
Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the Year: 1991
ESPN North American Athlete of the Century: 1999
ESPY Athlete of the Century: 2000
ESPY Male Athlete of the Decade Award: 1990s
ESPY Pro Basketballer of the Decade Award: 1990s
Associated Press Athlete of the Century (Second Place): 1999
Sport Greatest Athlete of the Last 50 years: 1996
Ranked #1 by SLAM Magazine’s Top 75 Players of All-Time
Ranked #1 by ESPN Sportscentury’s Top 100 Athletes of the 20th century
KB24 HONORS AND AWARDS:
3-time NBA champion: 2000, 2001, 2002
1-time NBA Most Valuable Player: 2008
2-time scoring champion: 2006, 2007
10-time NBA All-Star: 1998, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008
2-time NBA All-Star Game MVP: 2002, 2007
6-time All-NBA selection:
6-time All-Defensive selection:
NBA Slam Dunk Contest champion: 1997
NBA regular season leader 2 times:
MJ23 records:
NBA Finals
Jordan played in six NBA Finals for a total of 35 games.
scored 40 or more points in six games, and 50 or more in one game
averaged 33.6 ppg, 6.0 rpg, and 6.0 apg
6-time Finals MVP (1990-91, 1991-92, 1992-93, 1995-96, 1996-97, 1997-98)
Holds NBA Finals records for:
Finals MVP honors (6)
scoring average, single-series (41.0 ppg)
consecutive games, 20 or more points (35, June 2, 1991-June 14, 1998)
only player to score 20 or more points in all games, career (min. 15 games)
consecutive games, 40 or more points (4, June 11-18, 1993)
points, one half (35)
field goals made, one half (14)
consecutive field goals made (13)
free throws made, quarter (9)
three point field goals made, one half (6)
scoring 30 or more points in all games of series
points, 6-game series (246)
field goals made, 6-game series (101)
steals, 5-game series (14)
highest assists average not by a point guard, single-series (11.4 apg)
Playoffs
Holds NBA Playoff Records for:
points per game average, career (33.45)
points, career (5,987)
points, single postseason (759, 1992)
50 point games (8)
40 point games (38)
30 point games (109)
20 point games (174)
consecutive games, 10 or more points (179)
consecutive games, 20 or more points (60)
points in a game (63)
points in a 3-game series (135)
points in a 5-game series (226)
field goals attempted, career (4,497)
field goals made per game, career (12.2)
field goals made in a game (24)
field goals attempted, half (25)
field goals made in a 3-game series (53)
field goals made in a 5-game series (86)
field goals made in a 6-game series (101)
consecutive field goals made (13)
free throws made, career (1,463)
free throws made, quarter (13)
blocks by a guard, career (158)
free throws made per game, rookie (12.0)
free throws attempted per game, rookie (14.5)
Other:
only player to record back-to-back 50 point games
recorded two playoff career triple-doubles
All-Star Game
selected 14 times which is a record (1985-93, 1996-98, 2002-03)
3-time All-Star MVP which is a record (1988, 1996, 1998)
Holds NBA All-Star Game records for:
points, career (262)
field goals made, career (110)
field goals made, game (17)
field goals attempted, career (233)
field goals attempted, game (27)
steals, career (37)
blocked shots, half (4)
recorded the only All-Star Game triple-double (14 points, 11 rebounds, and 11 assists in 1997
Regular season
Holds NBA regular season records for:
All-Defensive First Team honors (9)
Player Efficiency Rating, career (27.91)
points per game average, career (30.12)
consecutive games scoring in double-digits (866)
seasons leading the league in points per game average (10)
consecutive seasons leading the league in points per game average (7, 1986-87 through 1992-93)
seasons leading the league in total points (11)
seasons leading the league in field goals made (10)
consecutive seasons leading the league in field goals made (7)
seasons leading the league in field goals attempted (9)
seasons leading the league in steals per game (3)
highest Game Score on record
free throws made, one half
free throws attempted, one half
free throws made, one quarter (shared)
free throws attempted, one quarter
steals, one half (8)
oldest player to score 50 points in one game (51 points, 7 rebounds, aged 38 years, 315 days)
oldest player and only player at age 40 or older to score 40 points in one game (43 points, 10 rebounds)
blocked shots by a guard, season (131, 1987-88)
blocked shots by a guard, career (893)
Other:
only player in NBA history to lead lead league in scoring and be Defensive Player of the Year in same season
only player in NBA history to be Most Valuable Player, Defensive Player of the Year, and lead league in scoring in same season
first player in NBA history to be Most Valuable Player and Defensive Player of the Year in same season
one of 10+ players in NBA history to lead team in four statistics in a season
only player besides Wilt Chamberlain to score 3,000 points in a season (3,041 in 1986-87)
first player in NBA history to collect both a scoring title and win a Defensive Player of the Year award in his career
first player in NBA history to record 200 steals and 100 blocked shots in a season (236 steals, 125 blocks in 1986-87)
only player in NBA history to consecutively record 200 steals and 100 blocked shots in a season (259 steals, 131 blocks in 1987-88)
only player in NBA history with multiple seasons of 200 steals and 100 blocked shots
first player in NBA history to lead league both in scoring average and steals in same season
fourth player in NBA history to lead league in scoring average and win an NBA championship in same season
led the 1995-96 Chicago Bulls to an All-Time NBA Best Regular season record, with 72 wins, 10 losses averaged a league high 30.4 ppg
led the 1995-96 Chicago Bulls to an All-Time NBA Best combined Regular and Post Season record with, 87 wins, 13 losses
won the 1996 and 1998 Regular Season MVP, All-Star MVP, and NBA Finals MVP
one of three players to be an Olympic basketball gold medalist both as an amateur and professional
one of three players in NBA history to average 20+ points, 5+ assists, and 5+ rebounds as a rookie
The only player in NBA history that has won Rookie Of The Year (1984), Regular Season MVP (5 times), All-Star MVP (3 times), Finals MVP (6 times), and Most Defensive Player of The Year Awards.
KB24 Records:
Kobe Bryant shares two NBA records:
Most three-point field goals made, one game: 12
Most three-point field goals made, one half: 8 (
Youngest player to score 15,000 points: (27 years, 136 days)
Youngest player to score 20,000 points: (29 years, 122 days)
Youngest Slam Dunk champion, after winning the contest at the 1997 NBA All-Star Weekend.
Youngest player to be named to the NBA All-Defensive Team: (1999–00)
Youngest player to start a game
2nd most points in a game: 81 (January 22, 2006 vs. the Toronto Raptors)
Final Result: these are the only records for kobe Bryant, MJ has maybe has three pages of records and Kobe has only a small paragraph of records, the results are not even close, people who compare these two players together need to know jordan’s stats or didn’t count jordan’s awards and records, Michael Jordan VS Kobe Bryant?????? are you kidding me?
Great stats… you do realize that your looking at a completed career compared to a player thats in his early 30’s. kobe most likely has 10 years left. How can you even compare those stats? let someone complete their career before you start with the comparisons. In 10 years when kobes retired alot of those stats will be different. By the way Kobe won finals mvp last year, the web site where you copied your stats from wrote he didnt.
Im not sure why you keep telling me that jordan is better. I never said he wasnt!! My point was its not about whos the best. its about appreciating what they are!! I take it that you are completely missing my point. Lets compare stats when kobe is done. then we can truly look at both players. But even in the end, who the best player isnt important. Who cares!! I dont need to bombard you with stats because its not important. And that was my point from day 1. Lets appreciate greatness when me have it. I think youre looking at the statement that the website admin wrote under the video, “the best ever?” .
Its not about whos the best or not… cause honestly, if you want to use stats to base greatness, then Wilt Chamberlain is the best ever!! In 1961- 62 he averaged 50 points per game and 25 rebounds per game, I dont care what stats jordan will ever have, nothing will impress me more then those 2 stats. How the heck does someone everage 50 a game. No 3 point line back then. No one will ever, ever, ever come anywhere close to that. Im not gonna waste my time to copy all of wilts stats for you. 55 rebounds in a game… wow.
You confuse me man. Im not sure why youre so determined to convince people of jordans greatness. No one ever doubted it. Hes great, he changed the game. The nba moved in the 3 point line and banned zone defence for him. Then they brought it back for him.
I take it you were a bulls fan. All im trying to say is, i dont think anyone can say this guy or that guy is the best. I wasnt alive to see wilt play. The Big O averaged a triple double one year. Who cares whos the best. By naming a “best” were overlooking sooo many awsome stats and just incledible players thAT most likely we were never alive to see play. Look at Russell, i think he had 11 championships. No one will catch him. He coached a team and played… and won!!
Look at magic. won finals mvp in his rookie year. Played all 5 positions.
Scott Skiles had 30 assists in a game!! wow
Theres been 4 Quadruple doubles in nba history. Whens the last time someone has come close? its been a while
Lets just appreciate greatness. I know its hard for people to do that.